In a record breaking 2hr 30min chat for this podcast, we go deep into all things ufological with my fellow DailyGrail writer, @red_pill_junkie. Getting in-depth into topics like The X-Files and The Invisibles. Why Yoda is a Gnostic Teacher and the Cat Bus from My Neighbour Totoro might just be a coded UFO. Ancient Astronauts in film is covered, and we not only talk about Jacques Vallee’s work, but we finish with RPJ talking about meeting him recently at a conference. It’s good stuff, and you don’t have to be into UFOs at all to enjoy…

In fact, what I hope you find by listening to this is just how much the modern quest to understand the mystery known in contemporary times as the UFO Phenomenon resembles so many timeless quests to understand ancient mysteries.

Guest links

• @red_pill_junkie on Twitter and writing at Daily Grail.

UPDATE – RPJ’s write-up of meeting Vallee etc is now up at DG: The Uncanny Vallee: Face to Face with a UFO Legend.

Works mentioned

• Knowing
• Dark Skies
• Close Encounters of the Third Kind
• Gremlins
• ET the Extraterrestrial
• Taken
• Communion
• The X-Files
• Captain America: The Winter Soldier
• My Neighbour Totoro
• Man of Steel
• Chronicle
• The Matrix
• The Invisibles
• Mirage Men
• Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull
• 2001: A Space Odyssey
• Star Trek: The Motion Picture
• The Operative
• The Sixth Day
• Fire in the Sky

Further details

• the Friendship Island story [mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/08/frien…an-ufo-story/]
• CHUPAS [www.ufocasebook.com/2008b/chupaflyingmenace.html]

Samples from Jon William’s soundtrack for Close Encounters of the Third Kind